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to frighten the russians into talking with hillary clinton about a political transition. >> the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process re -- result in a unified democratic syria in which all citizens are represented. the future of this kind cannot possibly include assad. >> a tragic turn of events in london. the nurse that first transferred that prank call to duchess catherine is found dead. david axelrod shaves it all off on "morning joe." >> joe scarborough. >> are your friends at the white house watching? >> laughing, i'm sure. >> laughing. >> his sacrifice is paying off a bet after he and his wife susan raised more than $1 million for epilepsy research, a disorder his daughter suffers from. >> your dollars are going to that research, that's worth a mustache and a lot more. >> and a picture is worth a thousand words. guess what news the president was getting when he took this call. we'll bring you the latest from the white house photo gallery. >> i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. after weeks of bluster and brinksmanship from both sides th
income will go up to the clinton era rates again or as republicans would try to keep them as close as possible, if not at the currents bush era rates. even if they settle that issue, there are a lot of other issues out there. those top rates will raise -- even if president obama gets everything he asked for, about 400 billion. and he wants $1.6 trillion. that's one quarter of the revenues he's seeking. gwen: politically that seems to be the fight he wants to have. >> he wants to put the republicans in the box and blame them for this. let them feel the political pain that comes with this. because his position on this polls very well. most people in this country say they want the president's solution. the trick is most people on capitol hill know that and can they find an artful way to get to a deal where they don't feel too badley humiliated. they're going to lose on the politics eventually i think everyone thinks. can they do it and will the president let them grace fully? -- gracefully? >> we haven't heard a lot of sniping or leaking but when do they start getting antsy? >> he's n
think it's important that we have a seat at the table. >> flash point serious, secretary clinton in brussels where nato leaders are sending patriot anti-defense missiles to turkey and warning syria of any thought of using chemical weapons. prince william leaves the hospital after visiting kate. she remains hospitalized for severe morning sickness. good day. i'm amount li-- andrea mitchell live in washington. the senate has managed to vote on something, rejected a u.n. treaty to extend rights to the blind and disabled, rights that have been the law of the land here in the united states since 1990. despite an emotional appearance from bob dole just out of walter reed, 89 years old, a passionate advocate for equal rights for the disabled since his first speech on the senate floor in 1969. joining me for our daily fix, kra, managing editor of post politics.com and capitol hill correspondents, nbc's kelly o'donnell and luke russert. kelly, to you, because this vote in the senate, john kerry led the way, it was bipartisan, in support. they needed 6 votes. it's a treaty, two-thirds of t
of state hillary clinton. the u.s. and other nations fear that the syrian regime could use chemical weapons against its own people. secretary clinton making it very clear that syrian president bashar al-assad must go. >> let me also be absolutely clear. the united states stands with the syrian people in insisting that any transition process result in a unified, democratic syria. in which all citizens are represented. sunni, alawite, christians, kurds, men, women, every syrian must be included in this process for a new and better future. martha: still far from where we are right now in the country of syria where 45,000 people have been killed under the assad regime. president, secretary clinton also promising to hold all parties accountable for what happens in syria. in other words, if assad does go, if you are part of that regime, part of the killing, part of what we've seen happening you also will be held accountable. bill: we were told the ignition process had begun for the chemical weapons. if that is the case. we were also told they have a shelf life for about 60 days. if you do not use
in syria now and very, very tough talk from the secretary of state, hillary clinton about potential for united states intervention amid reports that the syrian military has yet, again, moved the chemical weapons in recent days. now, secretary of state, hillary clinton says the united states will take action if they release those chemical weapons on their people. >> this is a red line for the united states, we have made that clear. there is in doubt there is a line between even the horrors they have already inflicted and moving to what would be an internationally con telled step of utilizing their chemical weapons. >>shepard: syria could have several hundred ballistic missiles in their arsenal, capable of carrying chemical warheads. the united nations is pulling all of their "nonessential international staff" from syria as fighting intensifies in damascus. this is amateur video that reportedly shows violent airstrikes in a suburb but fox news cannot confirm the. >> -- confirm the the authencity. hillary clinton was not clear about what the red line would be? >>reporter: that is right
, you remember very well that we had a very different white house. president clinton had decided that he was going to try to work with the republicans. he brought in a new chief of staff by the name of erskine bowles, and in that has popped up again. and he immediately called me and said to my here to work with you and that enabled us to do a lot of things that i don't think the republicans today can get done with this obama white house. lou: and are you and i in agreement that the republicans are not in nearly sufficiently strong position, not with the lack of talent, there are some questions about that, but because of the lack f power of the leaders in the house and the role of the house in this negotiation. >> i am not prepared to ay that. i go up to the capitol every week and meet with the republican leaders and listen to them as they talked very openly about what their views are and what they're trying to get done. and i can tell you that they are a lot stronger than they have been presented by the conservative media. the interesting thing about the speaker is to make you look car
people, it would clearly have large consequences for him. bill: secretary of state hillary clinton called an emergency meeting with the pentagon. >> the pentagon has contingency plans for everything including the chemical attack. it's believed according to a u.s. source that syria has put this sarin fast into cannisters that could be dropped from planes. these cannisters are designed to fracture so the devastating nerve gas could escape. but it's not known whether syria intends to use those chemical weapons. we think we have it in aerosol form. the u.s. is making contingency plans in case bashar al-asaad leaves the country suddenly and flees somewhere for asylum which would leave a vacuum there. several countries in that region are trying to find a place for assad to go. secretary of state hillary clinton has a just-added meeting today in dublin, ireland. here you see her earlier today. she and the russian minister decided to meet with the envoy to syria. across barbra himybill: russia s discussion in moscow. earlier in a week there was a report it was pulling support away from damascus.
to turkey, hillary clinton warns syria against moving its chemical weapons. >> this is a red line for the united states. i'm not going to telegraph in any specifics what we are would do in the event of credible evidence that the assad regime has resorted to using chemical weapons against their own people, but suffice it to say, we are certainly planning to take action if that eventuality were to occur. >> and while washington buzzes over this video tribute to clinton, some are asking is it a farewell to the secretary or prelude to 2016? honoring the icons. politics meets hollywood. a tribute to the arts. president obama finds a way to salute an eclectic group of honor honorees. >> we've got my guy sitting next to dustin hoffman. dave letterman alongside one of the greatest ballerinas of all time. i couldn't think dave dances. there's no smooth transition from ballerina to led skep lin. they redefine the rock and roll lifestyle. we do not have video of this. there was some hotel rooms trashed and mayhem all around. so it's fitting that we're doing this in a room with windows about
this because you remember, we went through this with newt. you know, bill clinton would push newt only so far, and then the conservatives in the caucus like myself and matt salmon, steve largent and others would say we're not doing a deal. we will take this place down. we're not doing a deal. and then newt would call bill clinton up and say, you're pushing me too far. you've got to work with me here. the same thing's happening right now with boehner. >> with boehner. >> the republican -- and when you start stripping people of committee -- committee seats, war breaks out and it gets really -- it happened with us. it's about to happen here. he's got to realize that boehner is his partner. >> it feels like we're at a really critical moment here with respect to boehner. and he can choose one of two paths. he could choose the recalcitrant path, which is perfectly possible, or he can say to himself, okay, i need to build a coalition for the purposes of this fiscal cliff deal. that includes house democrats. and how do i go about doing that without totally alienating the base of my party? and i'm ver
come as hillary clinton made repeated the united states position that it will not tolerate the use of chemical weapons. >> we have made our views very clear. this is a red line for the united states. >> so is the united states about to get involved in syria's 20-month-old conflict? out front tonight, bob baer, peter brooks. nice to have both of you with us. bob, what do you think when does the united states get involved? >> i think the fact they're mixing it is highly alarming, of course. if they start deploying this, if they start putting it on artillery shells, if it looks like they're going to really fire this stuff, you know, i don't see any choice but we're going to have to go in. the west is completely -- what i'd also like to say is, that with the alloites, the regime that runs syria, would they use it? absolutely. if their back is against the wall and they think they're going to go down, they will use any of these binary gases that would stop the revolt, what they would -- they are that desperate. i don't know that they're at that point, but if they do, we really have to th
the president said either moving them or using them. today secretary of state clinton mentioned only using them. jay carney, the white house spokesman also repeated that phrase, did not mention the president's earlier condition about moving them around. so it's a little bit unclear whether the administration perhaps has changed its red line. >> rose: do you think the united states is thinking about doing this unilaterally or is this an action taking place in conjunction with other forces from other countries? >> no, whatever action will be taken, charlie, would almost certainly be done in conjunction with other allies in the region. the jordanians, for instance, the turks, all have been closely consulted in recent months. the u.s. is actually operating out of a small business in jordan, about 150 troops there helping the jordanians deal with the exodus of refugees coming out of syria as well as preparing for the possible use of chemical weapons in syria itself. >> rose: how about the israelis? >> of course, the israelis -- of course they are watching this very closely in the region with intelli
of consequences if it turned chemical weapons on its own citizens. and today secretary of state hillary clinton saying the world has made that perfectly clear to president bashar assad. >> we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line and those responsible would be held to account. >> activists saying at least 40,000 people have died in the antigovernment uprising that began last year. now evidence the blood shed is again seeping across another border into lebanon. gunmen loyal to the syrian regime and rebels fought it out on the streets in the northern part of that country. dozens reported dead in two days of fighting there. similar clashes have erupted more than a dozen times before in lebanon. more violence and death that we can trace back to the actions of one man. and today a new warning from the head of the united nations that president assad probably should not expect any mercy from his counterparts around the world. jonathan hunt has more on that from the united nations here in new york. jonathan, quite a debate about the asylum question for assad. and the questi
your respiratory system. >> those troubles developments come as hillary clinton made repeated the united states' position that it will not tolerate the use of chemical weapons. >> we have made our views very clear. this is a red line for the united states. >> so is the united states about to get involved in syria's 20 month old conflict? "outfront" tonight, bob bair, peter brooks was under president george w. bush. bob, i'm going to start with you if i can. so, at what point do you think the administration gets involved? is what we've seen now this sense they're creating weapons, is that enough? >> it's not enough. i think the fact they're mixing it is highly alarming, of course. if they start deploying this, if they start putting it on artillery shells, if it looks like they're really going to fire this stuff, i don't see any choice but we're going to have to go in. the west is completely, what i'd also like to say is that with the minority regime that runs s syria, would they use it, absolutely. if they're back is against the wall and they think they're going to go down, the
clinton. president truman's oldest grandson, who was the first truman to travel to japan. tonight on c-span 3, a look at hiroshima. a talk with his trip and what he learned it. learned through his words teacher made that his grandfather went through and now he went through in hiroshige of. 6:00 for those on the west coast on c-span 3. here is a preview. [video clip] >> i tried to look down and i saw so many dead bodies floating on the surface. people --'s so many the people suffered from the burned bodies. they went into water. it jumped into the river. >> that was a survivor of the bombings in hiroshima telling her story for the first time to daniel on his first visit to the two cities where the bomb was dropped the in 1945. you are listening for the first time. what did you see your role as as you were listening to it? >> just to be there to listen to her and to let her speak and to let her do this for the first time. >> for her understanding she was talking to the grandson of the man who made a decision to drop the bomb. did she talk to you about that? >> she did not. a lot the came
partner at hamilton place strategies kiki mclean, senior adviser to the 2008 hillary clinton presidential campaign. good morning. >> good morning. >> tony, do republicans sit back and wish governor sununu would quit talking? >> not only is it offensive to a large part of the lack trat, it happens to be wrong. republicans did very well and in fact governor romney did very well among lower income voters. so it's wrong but we shouldn't be talking that way. we should be talking about all americans and economic opportunity for all americans and trying to achieve that. that's the important thing. >> governor sununu of course has made controversial comments before. let me play for you what he said about president obama after the first presidential debate back in october. >> what people saw last night i think was a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is and how he has absolutely no idea how serious the economic problems of the country are. >> john sununu also suggested race was a motivating factor for colin powell to support president obama for president. is there r
. [applause] >> secretary of state hillary clinton on this id to which in the middle east. after that, a congressional tribute to late senator warren redman then another chance to see first lady michelle obama showing the white house christmas decorations to military families. tomorrow on washington journal, paul weinstein, the former senior adviser to the simpson bowles commission, on the wall the commission's recommendations are playing in the ongoing negotiations concerning the fiscal cliff. from the government accountability office, they discussed the state of the facilities at guantanamo bay and the factors to be considered in moving detainee's stateside. and what did it did for near east policy, the latest from egypt after president mohammad morsi granted himself hoarse above the court. washington journal, live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public-service by your television provider. >> now secretary of state hillary clinton talks about her recent travels to the middle east to help broker a ceasefire
is on the move. secretary of state hillary clinton today issuing another stern warning against syria, using these weapons. the syrian foreign ministry quick to respond here saying it would not use chemical weapons against its people if it had any, but this announcement as turkey is sending warplanes to its border with syria after the syrian military bombed a nearby town of ras al-ain. you can hear that and see the smoke. this is the turkish side of the border. this is fueling more fears that more of syria's violence will spill into its neighbor to the north, being turkey. security concerns are prompting the u.n. to announce it is pulling nonessential personnel out of syria. want to bring in fran townsend, our cnn national security contributor and member of the cia external advisory committee. and, fran, good to see you. let's talk about these chemical weapons because we know that in the past, what, three, three have been, i guess, two, two different times the u.s. has seen syria move its chemical weapons around. but intelligence suggests this time the movement is different. how so? >> well,
the day, he went to saint andrews and played golf with bill clinton and terri mccall mccalliffe. peters that was a little bit more of a high-profile sunday than i had. >> bill: al good return. >> ron kirk, the u.s. trade ambassador. >> bill: a frequent golf partner with the president. >> we are learning more about what mitt romney has been up to including having a non-home-cooked thanksgiving dinner. he ordered in from boston market for the family saying there were too many kids running around to be cooking. >> peter: how the mighty have fallen. >> photographed pumping his gas since he has no entourage to the pump it for him. >> a sad story, nothing to do. >> peter: i don't feel that bad about it. hanging out with his car elevator taking rides. spiritists one of his many homes. >> the author of the hunger games trilogy is taking a break by writing a children's picture book an auto guy graphic piece about coping with her father's military service in vietnam as told through pictures. >> bill: all right, dan, thank you. all of the talk on the sunday s
clinton says this afternoon that these u.s. warnings about the potential use of chemical weapons against the syrian people are being conveyed to the regime of president bah shark al assad both publicly and privately. western intelligence agencies over the last week have detected suspicious movements of chemical weapons components at selected sites inside syria. the regime is thought to be growing more desperate as fighting in and around the capital city, damascus, at the same time has intensified. today brings word of a high school teacher and 29 students being killed in a mortar incident at a school there. meantime, nato officials say once the parliaments in germany and the netherlands -- which is expected -- it'll be only a matter of weeks until missile systems are installed along turkey's border with syria so as to guard against possible reprisals for the country's staunch support of the syrian rebels. >> we know that syria possesses missiles, we know they have the chemical weapons, and, of course, that also have to be included in our calculations. and this is also the reason why it i
buildings. secretary of state hillary clinton now raising more concerns that bashar al-assad may resort to using chemical weapons against his own people. hillary clinton saying the u.s. is worried about an increasingly desperate bashar al-assad may use the weapons or lose control of them. this battle has been exploited to some extent by al qaeda. the rebels have been infiltrated by al qaeda, which is becoming a growing force there. in any event, the concern about chemical weapons is vast. we will have one with the united states is now doing about the situation with general jack keane coming up in a bed. on capitol hill, national intelligence director james clapper just got done freaking house members on the deadly terror attack against our consulate and then got become libya. fox news has learned that mr. james clapper show them a timeline of the attack. you can see demonstrators reaching across and they began to loot and set fires. some of the demonstrators are seen armed, and there's a portion of the video showing the attackers running into the compound. we will have much more on what
.6% rate of the clinton years? he did not. so is there a little give ultimately to sort of say what if it doesn't go up to 39.6%, but say 37%, is that something the white house would accept? also, this that same interview, the president raised the possibility, which is that after you do tax reform and you close loopholes and deductions, that if the rate is raised, the top rate, there's always a possibility that after you do tax reform, of course, the top rate would then go down again. so it was -- you have to listen to the president very carefully to see where there might be some give. the problem from my point of view is that everybody knows what's got to be done in the long-term. it's the question of the short-term deal. >> john boehner, speaker of the house, he came up with a proposal. but not all the conservatives in the house and the senate are on board. jim demint, republican senator from south carolina. >> this is a time to negotiate with ourselves. we need to invite the president to work with us. his proposal was so outlandish, i don't think we should go back to the table un
. you talked about presidents from obama to george w. bush, bill clinton, all objecting to settlement on that spot and getting his assurances from israel that it wouldn't be built on, so why now? tough talking? election coming up? what happened in the u.n.? what's the feeling there? >> well, certainly the israelis have made no secret of the fact that this is a direct punitive measure for what happened at the u.n. last thursday where, of course, the palestinians managed get an upgraded status there in the u.n. general assembly going to nonmember observer state. of course, the word state there is the operative one for the palestinians. the palestinians now say they do, in fact, have a state which is a taertory that is defined as the west bank, gaza, and east jerusalem. so, therefore, the palestinians are saying that this obviously would make the implementation of this state all but impossible because they say it would be impossible for them to even reach their capital that they want to have, which is, of course, east jerusalem. this is certainly a measure that's cause aing lot of intern
of state hillary clinton held a news conference. keep in mind, russia here, really, resisted the efforts to speed the departure of the syrian leader al assad. so jill, do we know, was syria's chemical weapons, was that discussed here in this conversation between the secretary of state and the foreign minister of russia? >> reporter: well, yes. initially. there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area where they do agree. russia is very much opposed to any type of use of chemical weapons and in fact secretary clinton thanked him for speaking about that which she did in brussels just yesterday, talking about that. although, brooke, you know, you have to say that the russians next breath say that they have raised that issue, in fact, with bashar al assad. the president of syria. and he assures them that there's no use intended and it is not a problem and, so, you kind of have two messages coming from the russians but you would have to say they're very much opposed to that and a lot of concern. >> so
and secretary clinton did, we understand the red line, but the world this week certainly growing concern about syria's potential use of chemical weapons. can we ask you your view on this, how concerned are you? how imminent are your concerns? should assad believe that his weapons are sheltered and safe from potential response, a potential military action by anyone? >> well, without commenting on the specific intelligence that we have with regards to the chemical weapons, i think there is no question that we remain very concerned, very concerned that as the opposition advances, in particular on damascus, that the regime might very well consider the use of chemical weapons. the whole world is watching. the whole world's watching very closely. the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be cons qenszs. -- consequences. there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a terrible mistake by using these chemical weapons on their open people. i'm not going to speculate or comment on what those potential consequences would be. it's fair enough to say that use of those we
is also being mentioned as a possible successor to secretary of state hillary clinton if president obama doesn't pick u.n. ambassador susan rice. >>> elsewhere, president obama has drawn a hard line on tax increases for the wealthiest of americans. rejecting an offer that republicans claim is as good as it's going to get. tracie potts joins us with the latest on this. good morning. >> reporter: right now it's looking more likely that we could, could, go over that fiscal cliff at the end of the month because right now, negotiations here are at a stand still. president obama talks to the business round table today after telling bloomberg he absolutely won't bunch. the wealthiest americans must pay more. >> we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: he may be in a good position to wait it out. a new poll found more half of americans will blame republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. >> republicans do not want to touch one hair on the head of one person making over $250,000. that is the rub. >> they've got to come with some specific revenue. they refuse to do that.
that will make very clear to us to assad, which if he crosses what secretary clinton called the red line and uses these weapons, chemical and biological, there will be grave consequences. essentially the end of his regime. i hope through the deterrence we can stop him from doing so, but i also believe that we as leaders of the world, the united states, has to begin to assemble an international coalition to prevent assad from using the chemical and biological agents against his own people. we have sat too long on the sidelines we are now getting engaged the need for engagement and more than that urgent action is clear and now. and i think we are all saying to president obama who has now stated very clearly there will be drastic consequences for assad and his government if they use weapons of mass destruction. we are with you. there is strong support across congress if the president takes the strong action that's necessary to prevent a very, very historically horrific humanitarian disaster in syria. senator. >> thank you, senator. we do represent a broad range of views from within the senate, the r
in the east bay and north bay. >>> new this morning, secretary of state, hillary clinton, warning that there is a redline for the united states if syria uses chemical weapons in their its civil -- in its civil war. >> i'm not ga that telegraph this any specifics what we would do in the event of -- i'm not gonna telegraph this any specifics what we would do in the event they use chemical weapons against in own people. >> the conflict in syria, expected to top the agenda today during vladimir putin's visit to turkey. during those talks, turkey will probably argue for tougher requirements for bashar assad. >>> it is 7:14. we were hoping to get some answers this morning, but as we just reported, the waiting game continues for same-sex couples hoping to get married here in california. alison burns is in our washington, d.c. newsroom with how the u.s. supreme court is keeping them guessing for a few days. >> reporter: just about 45 minutes ago, the justices released a list of cases they are going to be considering this term and still no mention of same-sex marriages. they are going to t
gas into bombs for the appointment. 500 times more toxic than cyanide. hillary clinton holds an emergency meeting with russia's foreign minister and the un peace envoy for syria to discuss the issue. approving the delivery of missiles to turkey. that aimed to protecting the nato area against attacks. deciding to okay the move after mortar rounds killed five people. missiles expected to arrive in turkey next month. the presidential palace is looking more and more like a camp. the egyptian military and selling our buyer. the worst round of violence in two weeks. clashes killed seven last night. those are your latest headlines. back to dagen and connell. dagen: thank you. if the u.s. goes over that fiscal cliff, people in california will pay a ton in extra taxes. california would have the highest earners there would pay almost 52% as their marginal income tax rate. the highest in the country. the only state that would have a calculated rate would be hawaii. three percentage points to the marginal state income tax rate. we will have entrepreneur ethan anderson coming up, maybe to
aware of the seriousness of the president's position on this. >> secretary of state clinton is in brawls attending the nato foreign minister session. she emphasized that the patriot system being deployed to turkey are not meant to destabilize the already uneasy relationship with russia as the spokesman at home urged now to join the international community in helping to ease bashar al-assad. >>shepard: thank you from the state department. that is the reporting. now the context and perspective. now to the director of the program on arab politics at the washington institute for near east policy a "american bandstand" group of scholars whose mission is to advance america's interests overseas. how big a move is this movement of chemical weapons? what does it tell us in the big picture? >>guest: it is very significant. it highlights the desperation of assad regime, the fact he is mixing the recursors of sarin gas, that is a scare tactic for us to keep us out of it, and, also, warning the people of syria he could be prepared to use these if he is brought down. >>shepard: based on what the unite
now they will have the time to schedule a round of golf with bill clinton. [laughter] >> that's an inside joke, folks. >> let me turn to the subject at hand. i believe we're dealing with an important question in the south caucasus region which reps in a complex of the both regional alliances and conflicts, bitter rivalries, degrees of western orientation, desperate economic trajectories, and a potential venue for instability and even violence. in terms of you in the south caucasus region from the perspective of the subcommittee it is important to note some of our strongest instruments, the euro atlantic institutions of nader, the european union, have a weak presence, and, therefore, are not as relevant as they are in the balkans. ultimately this means that europe and the united states have less leverage in the region. this allows other countries in the region to compete or political, economic and military influence in the region. i'm looking for to hearing eyewitnesses discuss this issue today. really want to hear what you have to say. i believe that armenia, azerbaijan and ge
and -- the revolutionary guard corps and hillary clinton said iran is edging closer to being a military dictatorship. i wonder when marina talks about this kind of long history of abuse of political prisoners, whether the agents of that abuse have changed over this 20-30 year span, and whether the increased role of the irgc has an impact on the human rights landscape? is the power of the military in iran actually making matters even worse? >> thanks very much, ladies and gentlemen, and thanks for arranging a panel discussion about human rights. it's rather interesting that in this city, washington, dc. most panels about iran are about the nuclear program and almost nothing about the political prisoners. it send a terrible signal to the iranian public because it means you do care about your own security, you do care about the implications of the islamic republic becoming a nuclear armed state, but what happens in iran does not matter to the washington elite. this is the signal washington has been sending to iran, and i think this panel and initiative to make human rights issue more important issue on th
. secretary of state hillary clinton said today that the united states and russia to get syrian president al-assad to talk about the political transition and syria. she spoke yesterday with russia's for a minister and the u.n. peace envoy to the next conversation with u.s. ambassador to syria, robert ford on president assad using chemical weapons. investor four was part of an event held by the foundation for defense of democracy is yesterday. this is about half an hour. >> the good morning. very nice to be here. let me thank andy for that very kind introduction and i would also like to thank john for inviting me here to talk to the foundation for the defense of democracy st. john and i go way back to when we were in iraq together. another tough situation where we were trying to help promote space change in the middle east. i am only going to talk for about ten minutes and then i would welcome some questions and a little more of a discussion. so just listening to me drone on. i want to take just one minute and give you my sense of the situation on the ground and syria, which is changing. and
going on between bill clinton and then speaker newt gingrich and the government did shut down. the president emerged on both occasions, two shutdowns, in a stronger political position because the american public blamed the conservatives, the republicans in congress more than they blamed the white house. so that is the one area where the white house is saying, look, they have some leverage on that. >> let me ask you this, wolf. you have been at this game a long time. this intractability sounds and feel it's like nothing we have ever seen before. do you have any sort of, i don't know, light on the horizon that you see? are we going to be this polarized and literally make the country pay for what's now become just sheer ugly politics? >> my own gut tells me that between now and the end of the year they will reach a deal. and it will be a compromise and both sides won't be thrilled by it, but it will be better than the alternative. and it will probably go down to the last minute. it usually does. maybe ruin some christmas vacations and stuff like that, but the stakes really are en
issue bob dole was using against bill clinton. i think we've made progress in other areas. clearly environmentally. we have deniers of global warming. but we're reducing the amount of oil we import and use. there's progress in that regard. on the other hand, there's been some retrogregs in the recognition of two of the great accomplishments of america in the 20th century with social security and medicare. before those two, we didn't have the possibility for the average old person who wasn't wealthy to have a decent existence in retirement. we now that v that and i'm sorry to see that pulled back. there's also an international event. we have to recognize this. from 1940 to 1990, we had very heavily-armed, bad people threatening our existence as a society. we don't have that anymore. we have the thugs. they are not the communists. they don't threaten our very existence. we have an ability now, i believe, to reduce some of the resources and do more things at home. although there's an ideological barrier. >> i know you love the congress. tip o'neill once said the people are better now.
the top to the clinton levels now and let next year be a time for negotiating rates for the future and maybe everybody could lower the rates for everyone during that time. >> how much of this do you think is just public posturing and kind of bloviating on cable channels? it seems like a lot of that is going on. >> reporter: so much of that is public posturing and bloviating. but i think the difference between now and what we've seen in past high-stakes negotiations like this, you have the public posturing, the bloviating and the, okay, guys, let's roll up our sleeves and talk about what's really going on. by all accounts, that's not happening right now. the fact you said it's news the president and speaker had their first phone conversation which got nowhere in a week is really amazing and speaks to the lack of the real conversations going on behind the scenes. i will say that, you know, back to what david and jessica were saying, david particularly about the fact that -- the question about whether the white house and democrats in general are overreaching, look, when timothy geithn
and a half now. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is leading a new u.s. diplomatic push on syria holding talks in dublin, ireland, today. let me begin with you. including this distressing nbc news report, what and how much do we know about al assad's movements at this point? >> reporter: there have been concerns for months. the u.s. reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on consequences. there's not concern that bashar al assad might iutilize them against his own people but if weapons are still there terrorists could get hands on weapons and utilize those chemical weapons. you have this nbc news report. also on monday important to remind our viewers, cnn reported that they had word from u.s. officials that in fact syria had begun mixing chemical weapons and that would be done to create sarin for weapons in the future. they say there was no sign that the syrian officials were going to do anything with those weapons any time soon. important to remember that. also important to remem
clinton. the question, of course, is what is the administration to do now? suzanne. >> how are people reacting to this news, the fact that you've got the defense secretary now what it seems to be getting closer to some of the statements we have seen about real concern over the possibility of these chemical weapons? >> yeah. i think that's exactly the point. secretary panetta going on to say, as others have, but saying it very emphatically just a few moments ago, that assad needs to know there will be consequences if he decides to use those chemical weapons against his own people, and, of course, that's as much a message to assad, to iran, which is heavily involved in syria right now, and also, to the middle east dawas in the region. turkey, israel, majoritiedan, as well as lebanon that borders syria and are very concerned about this prospect. what you are seeing really is the rhetoric, the concern, the latest intelligence, and that this is now becoming a regional concern throughout the middle east, suzanne. >> and, barbara, final question, is this any closer to the red line that we he
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